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Mr. Kuleba, let’s assume that Vladimir Putin is willing to sign the following peace treaty: Russia will keep the territories it now controls, and you will immediately become a member of NATO. This would mean that you would benefit from the security guarantee under the NATO umbrella. Why wouldn’t you participate?
Dmytro Kuleba: This is a purely hypothetical discussion. I prefer to discuss real issues than something that is not on the agenda. To those hypothesizing about this, this may sound like a very lucrative venture. But when making decisions of historical importance, one must remember that one has responsibility not only for one’s contemporaries, but also for future generations of Ukrainians. And it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to explain why we ceded Ukrainian territory to the Russians. Of course, any sensible person would want this nightmare to end as soon as possible. We all want to live a normal life. However, the deal you just described would essentially legitimize all the crimes Russia has committed.
Is China interested in continuing this war?
China is not interested in a Russian victory in Ukraine. At the same time, China is not interested in a complete defeat of Russia. It’s a balance. China is waiting for the moment when circumstances allow it to play the role of peacemaker. We already offer such an option, namely the peace formula proposed by President Zelensky. We look forward to China’s participation in these diplomatic efforts and believe it is important to have China on board.
What would a Trump victory mean for Ukraine?
The year 2024 will be bumpy for us because of the elections in the United States; The temptation of some American forces to integrate Ukraine into the US domestic political agenda is too great. On the one hand, it is clear that supporting Ukraine in its fight against Russian aggression is part of the legacy of President Biden and both parties – Democrats and Republicans. When you run for election, you say certain things and do certain things. When you actually win and become an authority, it becomes more complicated because you are surrounded by very different actors and forces.
When you see photos and videos of the front, anger must rise in your mind. How do you deal with that?
I tell myself: the best way to honor our suffering and fallen soldiers is to win this war. If we win, they won’t lose their hands, arms and legs for nothing. Her life was broken for a reason. They didn’t die in vain. Every sacrifice obligates us to do everything we can to ensure that Ukraine wins this war. So I say this sentence to myself: pull myself together and keep working.
How do you keep your energy up? They have been in continuous use for almost two years.
Children, dogs and vitamins. (He smiles, takes a pack of vitamins from his pocket and holds it up to the camera.)
Let’s say you win the war. They are pushing Russia back to the 1991 borders. Given the many landmines, will this liberated country even be habitable?
It will take time to make it habitable again. The clearing of this mining area will probably be the largest mine clearance operation in history.
The war could continue as long as Vladimir Putin remains in power. They blow up Russian ships. They’re blowing up bridges and airports deep in Russia. Why were you unable to eliminate Vladimir Putin?
That is a good question …
Dmytro Ivanowych Kuleba (45) was born the son of a Ukrainian diplomat. He studied international law in Kiev and then started a diplomatic career at the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He has been Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine since the cabinet reshuffle on March 4, 2020. He is also the author of “The War for Reality: How to Win in the World of Fake, Truth, and Communities” and is a member of the Executive Advisory Board from World.Minds. Kuleba is married and has two children.
Dmytro Ivanowych Kuleba (45) was born the son of a Ukrainian diplomat. He studied international law in Kiev and then started a diplomatic career at the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He has been Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine since the cabinet reshuffle on March 4, 2020. He is also the author of “The War for Reality: How to Win in the World of Fake, Truth, and Communities” and is a member of the Executive Advisory Board from World.Minds. Kuleba is married and has two children.
What consequences does the war in Israel have for Ukraine?
I wish the war in Israel had never happened and not claimed so many lives on both sides. We’ve certainly lost some spots on the front pages of the media. However, I do not feel that we have lost our place on the list of top priorities in the world. Unfortunately, people have this trait: they get used to everything. This is how people got used to the war in Ukraine. People will also get used to the war in the Middle East if it lasts longer. And there will be new crises, new wars that will push previous wars and conflicts off the front pages. That is how it works. My job and the job of President Selensky’s entire team is to win the war, and that is what we are focusing on.
*Rolf Dobelli is a writer and founder of World.Minds, a community of the world’s leading minds in science, business and geopolitics. He lives in Bern.
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