The accusations against Rammstein singer Till Lindemann do not stop. Now the case was also a subject for “Hard but fair” on ARD. Under the motto “The Rammstein case and the question: men, are you really no further?” moderator Louis Klamroth spoke on Monday with ex-music manager and ex-‘DSDS’ jury member Thomas Stein, among others. He caused outrage with his statements about Lindemann.
“Have you ever been to a Rammstein concert?” asks Thomas Stein on the talk round, then explains quite naturally: “If he (Editor’s Note: Till Lindemann) runs across the stage at 60 years old, should he suddenly go down and make someone happy? He has to go to the museum, that’s a strength you can’t muster.”
Although he was surprised “nothing more at all,” says Stein, the allegations against Lindemann surprised him. He was an “accessible contemporary”, the ex-DSDS judge proclaimed. He refers to the presumption of innocence, but also says: a crime must be punished in this case, but “just putting something out there is a huge risk,” he explains. “Someone is really extremely biased here,” says Stein.
He also finds the appearance of a “Row Zero”, as usual at Rammstein concerts, not unusual. “It’s always been there — with Heino, with Roberto Blanco, and with Rammstein,” says Stein.
“Someone is extremely biased here,” says former music manager Thomas Stein #tough but fair @The first to the sexual #accusations around Till Lindemann, the band’s frontman #Rammstein. pic.twitter.com/BjZHioqAqJ
— tough but fair (@hartaberfair) June 19, 2023
Thomas Stein’s statements about Till Lindemann caused horror on Twitter. For example, one Twitter user complained that the Me-Too debate “completely passed him by”.
If you need totally stupid comments from old showbiz men of the last millennium, ask Thomas Stein.#Me, too totally missed it.
The ongoing “But she wore a very short skirt!” reversal of the victim argument.#tough but fair
— Blake 📵 Out of order 💝 (@BlakesWort) June 20, 2023
Most of all, Stein’s choice of words “to make happy” amazed the audience.
Meanwhile, T.Stein admires Till Lindemann for his ability to easily reconcile work and stage performance with a misogynistic bastard and alleged sexual predator, even at age 60. And “to make women happy”. #Difficult but fair
🤮— Anne anne_vlpx@mastodon.social (@Anne_VLPX) June 19, 2023
“make happy”…? WTF????
Stein, the typical old white man, belittles sexual harassment. #Difficult but fair— DagmarS 🇺🇦💚🏳️🌈🌻 (@DagmarSaeger) June 19, 2023
Just wow: the way Lindemann exhausted himself as a 60-year-old during the show, he could no longer “make happy” anyone under the stage. Does it get any more disgusting, Thomas Stein? So you start the show? And no one disagrees?#Difficult but fair
— Ms. Lila – Agent #13237 (@Ms.LilaLila) June 19, 2023
In the end, it was not just Stein’s statements that caused criticism. CDU politician Lisa Schäfer also caused the audience to shake their heads. She emphasized: “I’ve never been groped.” However, she finds it uncomfortable “when I walk down hotspot streets in bigger cities and young men, whose language I often don’t understand, play pranks on me. There is a sense of insecurity,” she explained. This led to misunderstanding in the discussion round. Louis Klamroth asked if she spoke English.
Opinions differed sharply on Twitter, with some accusing Schäfer of racism, others protecting them and criticizing the comments in the round of talks as arrogant. According to one user, this is also “victim blaming at its best”.
-In the case of Till Lindemann it says: “Don’t doubt anything and listen to the victim!!”
-In the case of Lisa Schäfer, Louis Klamroth says, “Don’t you speak English?” #tough but fair https://t.co/VG1v5Ct6wO— you can discuss that (@cross-reference) June 20, 2023
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